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Post by streetkill831 on Apr 7, 2010 9:12:48 GMT -5
Decided to give my baby it's own thread, she deserves it I've been doing a lot of work to it lately and here is where it's at. New inner barrel finally cam so I installed the hop-up conversion, firefly bucking, and Laylax 6.03 625mm barrel. She shoots like a dream now. I gave water transfer painting a try and this is what I cam up with: Didn't do the scope, but it still matches pretty well. The other side is a bit gritty looking so I plan on redoing it with my new knowledge, so as to get a more even effect throughout. Tanaka m24 SWS w/ PCS bolt Inside: * Creation Aluminum Chamber (Part #91) * G&G Steel Cocking Piece * G&G Striker Spring * Complete Palmer's co2 quick change air rig * Laylax 6.03 mm 625mm * King Arms/2Roy VSR Hop up Conversion * Firefly hop-up hard bucking for VSROutside: * Dboys Harris Style Bipod * CenterPoint 4-16x40 Illuminated red/green mildot w/ Objective from 5 yards to Infinity * Custom rear mono-pod (fully adjustable) Coming in a week: * CASV Top half to replicate the Mars rail system * I will also finish the new paint job * King Arms light weight mock suppressor which I will be chambering and foam filling
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Post by Shreve on Apr 7, 2010 9:26:32 GMT -5
hmm interesting you mounted it on the top, I usually see people throw it on a cheek rest pouch on one of the sides
But either way, VERY sexy sniper
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Post by streetkill831 on Apr 7, 2010 9:36:23 GMT -5
Thanks, yea I decided to be different. It's more stable this way and it doubles as the cheek rest. I'm in the process of making a thin pad that sits on top of it.
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Post by Shreve on Apr 7, 2010 10:11:02 GMT -5
pad = good idea... wouldnt the CO2 make the black container VERY cold?
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Post by streetkill831 on Apr 7, 2010 10:21:22 GMT -5
Haha yea it gets a little chilly.
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Post by Maverick on Apr 7, 2010 12:45:03 GMT -5
As soon as my stuff gets here, you and me will be similar, yet so different. Only thing I would suggest is nicer glass.
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Post by streetkill831 on Apr 7, 2010 13:02:03 GMT -5
Nicer glass? I think that it is more than enough for airsoft. What are you getting?
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Post by Maverick on Apr 7, 2010 15:28:18 GMT -5
Either an EA or Matchstick Global Leupold m1 or m3. I was more reffering to the externals of the scope, almost anything is good enough for looking through But IMO a nice rifle needs a nice peice of glass.
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Post by streetkill831 on Apr 8, 2010 7:31:20 GMT -5
Well personally I like the way the centerpoint looks and can't see paying anything more than $100 on a scope for an airsoft gun, which is what it cost.
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Post by Munster on Apr 8, 2010 8:06:14 GMT -5
I wonder why you would cut down your new barrel? I am no expert on snipers, but I would think longer would be better and if it sticks out, you could cover it up with a mock suppressor. Also, wouldn't it be better to run a 6.01 titey instead of the 6.03?
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Post by streetkill831 on Apr 8, 2010 8:36:36 GMT -5
Tight bore barrels only help with short range consistency, at longer ranges a tight bore barrel doesn't help. At longer ranges you want the bb to have room/time to stabilize. With the new barrel I will most likely only cut it down slightly, a couple inches or so, which won't make a difference.
Actually now a days snipers are moving to 6.08 barrels because they are better for long range consistency. There's a whole thread about it on another forum, I'll try to find the link later. As for the suppressor, I am putting one on but I will be using it to actually quiet the rifle by chambering and foam filling it. This would not work if the inner barrel went all the way through the suppressor because the compressed air would only escape once it reached the end of the barrel.
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Post by Shreve on Apr 8, 2010 10:21:17 GMT -5
wow.... I am part of a few threads and I haven't heard a larger barrel being better... Heard some people discussing about gas rifle being more consistent accuracy if you take out the hop-up (still not proven or disproven). only problem with that is you cant shoot as far. post that link when u find it i wanna read that
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Post by Maverick on Apr 8, 2010 13:02:27 GMT -5
It has to do with the air "cushion". In a 6.08 barrel there is more of an air cusion, or air circulating around the bb which provides greater stability. In a 6.01 barrel there is less of a cushion, but more power is behind the bb as less air escapes. The opposite is true in a 6.08, more air escapes so there is less power behind the shot. This power difference is minimal however, which is why it makes sense to go with a 6.03-6.05 barrel to get that happy medium.
The air current is also what makes the TK Twist barrel work, a spinning air current aroung the bb. They do not work at high speeds because this spinning air becomes too turbulent and destabalizes the bb.
As far as length goes, you need to have the volume of air propelling the bb match the length of the barrel. Any more and you get the loud pop, any less and you get barrel suck, or the bb still in the barrel after airflow is done being introduced. This is why most snipers tend to stick with a 430mm barrel or similar unless they move to a bore up cylinder. Gas sniper rifles are an exception as the amount of gas used per shot can be changed much more easily than the fixed amount stored in a spring rifle or AEG cylinder.
Personally for my KJW m700 project I will be using a Madbull 6.03 400-500mm barrel, havent decided length. I will cut down the outer barrel for added mobility while maintaining what is more of an optimal barrel length. The main factor to consider when buying a barrel however is the consistency of the bore. A shitty 6.01 will be outperformed by a nice 6.03 any day of the week. Surprisingly enough the madbull barrels have been found to be one of the most consistent barrels, second to PDI and EdGI. This is why I use and reccomend them in all my guns.
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Post by streetkill831 on Apr 8, 2010 13:21:39 GMT -5
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Post by Shreve on Apr 8, 2010 13:40:09 GMT -5
wow.... awesome info guys!
Thanks for the link also
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